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Irishthump		#1 Posted : Sunday, May 29, 2016 12:06:45 AM(UTC) Retweet
Rank: Gunner Posts: 13 Was thanked: 8 time(s) in 3 post(s)		Just a quick question... If a tank with the Blitzkrieg special rule draws either Busted Track or Bailed Out does it lose its option to move rather than make a repair roll? (I was thinking it would, just looking for clarification.)
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WolfBenrath		#2 Posted : Sunday, May 29, 2016 6:25:29 AM(UTC) Retweet
Rank: Commander Posts: 105 Thanks: 169 times Was thanked: 40 time(s) in 28 post(s)		Either repair or move. Look here: http://tanks.gf9games.co...89&g=posts&t=117
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Irishthump		#3 Posted : Sunday, May 29, 2016 10:48:02 AM(UTC) Retweet
Rank: Gunner Posts: 13 Was thanked: 8 time(s) in 3 post(s)		Originally Posted by: WolfBenrath Either repair or move. Look here: http://tanks.gf9games.co...89&g=posts&t=117 Yes. But both the Bailed Out and Busted Track damage state that the tank cannot move, so if it can't move how can it use the Blitzkrieg Rule?
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hithero		#4 Posted : Sunday, May 29, 2016 5:22:45 PM(UTC) Retweet
Rank: Commander Posts: 173 Thanks: 6 times Was thanked: 29 time(s) in 21 post(s)		It can't, can't move so no blitzkrieg.
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WolfBenrath		#5 Posted : Sunday, May 29, 2016 7:43:49 PM(UTC) Retweet
Rank: Commander Posts: 105 Thanks: 169 times Was thanked: 40 time(s) in 28 post(s)		I understand. But if a tank can not move, because of critical damage, he can not move through the Blitzkrieg rule also. It's just my personal opinion. Chief, please regulate !!!
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hithero		#6 Posted : Sunday, May 29, 2016 8:11:10 PM(UTC) Retweet
Rank: Commander Posts: 173 Thanks: 6 times Was thanked: 29 time(s) in 21 post(s)		Don't see why you need to be told that a tank with no crew can't move :/
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2938158		#7 Posted : Monday, May 30, 2016 2:41:11 AM(UTC) Retweet
Rank: Gunner Posts: 16 Thanks: 47 times Was thanked: 7 time(s) in 7 post(s)		Originally Posted by: hithero Don't see why you need to be told that a tank with no crew can't move :/ Because exploiting loopholes in the rules is what lawyers (solicitors for all you Brits) and gamers do best. It doesn't have to make sense, the rules don't disallow it so therefore it can be done. 😋
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FlyXwire		#8 Posted : Monday, May 30, 2016 3:05:50 AM(UTC) Retweet
Rank: Commander Posts: 49 Thanks: 30 times Was thanked: 11 time(s) in 5 post(s)		I agree - if the game is played tourney-comp style, then the possibility arises where it might become an issue (if a moderated game then the GM might have made sense of it and pass judgment anyway).
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Sean at TANKS HQ		#9 Posted : Monday, May 30, 2016 8:54:53 AM(UTC) Retweet
Rank: Commander Posts: 161 Thanks: 74 times Was thanked: 149 time(s) in 83 post(s)		If the critical damage card says you can't move, then you can't take the Move option from Blitzkrieg.
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Thundertotem		#10 Posted : Monday, May 30, 2016 5:31:31 PM(UTC) Retweet
Rank: Commander Posts: 148 Thanks: 8 times Was thanked: 38 time(s) in 29 post(s)		Originally Posted by: Sean at TANKS HQ If the critical damage card says you can't move, then you can't take the Move option from Blitzkrieg. You guys need to put a FAQ together. :)
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WolfBenrath		#11 Posted : Monday, May 30, 2016 8:13:46 PM(UTC) Retweet
Rank: Commander Posts: 105 Thanks: 169 times Was thanked: 40 time(s) in 28 post(s)		But it was a good question. Thank you Irishthump. (So the question was finally settled.) And ty Chief !!!
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Sean at TANKS HQ		#12 Posted : Tuesday, May 31, 2016 9:04:35 AM(UTC) Retweet
Rank: Commander Posts: 161 Thanks: 74 times Was thanked: 149 time(s) in 83 post(s)		Originally Posted by: Thundertotem Originally Posted by: Sean at TANKS HQ If the critical damage card says you can't move, then you can't take the Move option from Blitzkrieg. You guys need to put a FAQ together. :) It's quite likely that when the Organised Play Seasons get underway we'll release an FAQ pdf.
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Irishthump		#13 Posted : Tuesday, May 31, 2016 10:52:59 AM(UTC) Retweet
Rank: Gunner Posts: 13 Was thanked: 8 time(s) in 3 post(s)		Originally Posted by: 2938158 Originally Posted by: hithero Don't see why you need to be told that a tank with no crew can't move :/ Because exploiting loopholes in the rules is what lawyers (solicitors for all you Brits) and gamers do best. It doesn't have to make sense, the rules don't disallow it so therefore it can be done. 😋 I have a lot of experience of rules lawyers/solicitors (or Fun Vampires as I prefer to call them!) as I play a lot of X Wing which uses a very similar damage card system and any ambiguity in the rules is exploited to the Nth degree. But Hithero has a good point, there really is no ambiguity in this situation; 1) Blitzkrieg says you can move instead of making a repair roll. 2) Busted Track / Bailed Out says you cannot move. Edited by user Tuesday, May 31, 2016 10:53:33 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified
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Irishthump		#14 Posted : Tuesday, May 31, 2016 10:56:15 AM(UTC) Retweet
Rank: Gunner Posts: 13 Was thanked: 8 time(s) in 3 post(s)		Originally Posted by: WolfBenrath But it was a good question. Thank you Irishthump. (So the question was finally settled.) And ty Chief !!! Well I'm lucky enough to have the full version of the game so I felt it was my duty to put this question to the floor!
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Steve A		#15 Posted : Friday, June 17, 2016 6:40:31 PM(UTC) Retweet
Rank: Loader Posts: 3		I personally think that the Blitzkreig rule allows the German tank to make one lumbering move to try and get out of harms way before the critical damage card takes affect. So for example the Panther receives a Bail Out card so during the Command Phase the German player elects to make a Blitzkrieg move to try and protect his tank instead of rolling for a possible repair roll. So he moves the tank one length away and then the crew bail out. This way the German player gets his special rule and the critical card rules still get applied. Thoughts ?
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Poi		#16 Posted : Friday, June 17, 2016 10:08:14 PM(UTC) Retweet
Rank: Commander Posts: 99 Thanks: 6 times Was thanked: 11 time(s) in 9 post(s)		No, and it's been pretty clearly ruled that way by BF above.
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Carlson793		#17 Posted : Sunday, June 19, 2016 5:58:58 AM(UTC) Retweet
Rank: Commander Posts: 236 Thanks: 18 times Was thanked: 65 time(s) in 52 post(s)		Originally Posted by: Steve A I personally think that the Blitzkreig rule allows the German tank to make one lumbering move to try and get out of harms way before the critical damage card takes affect. Except that, by the rules, Special Effects from Criticals are applied immediately during the Shooting Phase, and Blitzkrieg takes place in the Command Phase.
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