Defence rolls also succeed on 4+, this should make those tanks last a little longer.

I do hope you give the game another go once the proper cards are available.

Ah, my mistake.

In that case, the Soviet player was very lucky to take out a Panther in one attack.

T34/85 at 25 points each firepower 5, 6 if the special rule applies. (i was the soviet player in that one)
The panther had more than 6 defense dices in that roll, in fact in that one we rolled 7 or 8 because everyone moving at full speed + cover + armour. we read the 6 limit just after that.

the game could work a lot better with less dices with bigger numbers like d20 or d10. the d6 gaps are to big.




Even if it was lucky, there was a second t34/85 waiting to make his shot with one additional atack dice for being in range with the first t34 (this rule with the difficult and not rewarding side shots, promote mindles unit groups, especially with soviets)

Edited by user Wednesday, March 30, 2016 10:10:06 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Hull MGs= I approve the use of MGs, but I fear that adding a rule for them is not justified by a return of in-game fun.

Ramming= I'll always be against this feature. Even if it's possible, no good tanker would sacrifice their vehicle like this. So I don't want a rule covering the 0,1% of cases. The only way to go is a "hero" stat on a card. Just that.

Limited ammo= I'd say no, just for the scale of the game... we're talking about 2 platoons of tanks in a fast engagement, so how many shots would you fire in reality? maybe between 10 and 30... So ammo shortages should not be a concern...

What do you say?

I'am not sure how well you can test and rate the game without knowing it's full potential. I could guess that specially Upgrade-Cards will have a high impact - at least I'll hope that. Who knows which Upgrades we might see here - maybe some One Use Staff that let you drop a Crit a.s.o

It's an easy game - fast & furious, like X-Wing. It's not a full simulation for Tank-Battles.

But I'll hope that there is some Balance between Quantity and Quality. X-Wing had a similar problem in the first 2 years of the game because more ships (Swarms) were much bedder than Elite-Pilots - a matter that changed with Wave IV and new Upgrades!

Then you must add counters for turns and\or ammo... again, it will trade a certain amount of complexity for a little more fun. Not a good trade, I think.

For the "tank tactics", I can say this:
Tank warfare is a science involving battles in a space of, say, 10 square Km.
Some tank has a long range, "sniper" gun (germans heavies, usually), others have guns effective at a shorter range against most of foes (meds), others are very fast and can reposition and scout for the rest of the force... then we have arty and fighter-bombers.

In this game, the entire sector is 1 square km (almost literally, if we use 15mm, which is 1\100).
It makes sense with the point costs: the nazi guys have denied their best weapon, superior range of penetration... So tank tactics are not very useful here, I guess.

PS for the rotation of turrets with buildings, I prefer to have no restrictions. Again, the scale of the game prevents you to fully recreate a terrain, so it's better to leave some "mental space" for little things.

IMHO :)

Edited by user Thursday, March 31, 2016 4:43:19 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

I agree with both :)

I think the core rules will remain the same but probably see new rules added using abilities and equipment much in the same way as X Wing has grown, the rulebook has stayed the same but each wave adds a little more

Maximum defense dice rule is on p11

I have bought the starter and decided to give a fair second chance to the game, this is going to be my honest opinion about it, and i hope it helps to give feedback.

With more matches under the belt i have changed my opinion, the game is better than initially expected, the card decks help a lot but i still think it has weak points and also good potential.

If i could change just one thing in the game to make it better i would chose turret mechanics without any doubt, a tank game by definition should have some kind of turret mechanic, i have tested some home made rules and they work wonders for the game, it adds more thought on how maneuver your units, also suddenly a turret jammed could force you to show your side to attack.

That change could improve a lot the game, but i still have 2 more concerns the first one is how lose the movement rules are and its a shame because i feel it could be the strongest part of the game, it could be easily fixed with some tournament ready rules. For example problems like tanks moving through each other, tanks trying to flank each other in close combat creating crazy spirals of movements that brake the suspension of disbelief, or just tanks being able to move backward with full speed and other similar problems.

The last concern is a really small detail. The game is arcade, easy to learn and those are strong points but i see it missing the chance to be more historically friendly or "educational" by this i don't mean changing the game or the core mechanics but making less things like "bliezkrieg" this rules make this 44,8 t tank faster because of reasons and more about historically justified rules like the existing ammunition cards with the name of the ammo or cards with the name of the gun sights and other real life equipment for example.

With those things fixed the game can become outstanding, and so i have high hopes for future updates.

The game has things that i like a lot, its cheap to collect all the factions you like, its easy to learn, because the low number of units you can take it everyware, even to a bar or a cafe to play with friends wile talking and having some drinks.

It seems like the game has got a better reception than expected due the low stock of the products, i’m glad about it because it makes possible future reditions or updates. Looking to the future my thought about the game are:

GaleForce has one hard decision to make and is how to go forward, we have seen op packs that are really interesting because the added rules but fragmenting this rules can be dangerous if you are not compiling them in one place for a complete experience, they can't introduce more units until battlefront makes more plastic models but if they introduce them they have the risk of overlapping tanks and factions.
Other random thoughts for the long run I suggest additional units but separated by early and late war. A solution to access all the rules and or cards is going to be needed for competitive matches. A realistic mode expansion with additional rules or redesigned gameplay is not so crazy, there is nothing like it out there and it could be a selling point for historical players or wargame veterans looking for even more depth, also more content for gf tanks veterans.


P.D.
Additional home rules that i see fun to use, and could inspire other players.

Split the Crit cards for front, side and rear. this makes the flanks rewarding, also its easier to hit the ammo from the side, and the engine for the rear. So you have the opportunity to increase the chances of archiving the crit you want. It feels almost like aiming!

If tanks move backwards they can only move one arrow back and 0 arrow to the front that turn. Fast tanks can move back 2 and 0 to the front.


I really hope this feedback is useful, i will keep an eye on this game for sure, and i hope it grows strong and evolves accordingly.