Let's not forget, all you have to do is be able to move round slightly faster than the wife and she can take the hits :)

Take 7 Crusaders for every 1 Tiger, that way in a 6 turn game you will still have 1 Crusader left, unless Bobby Woll is in there then you might be in bother.

Don't you think a swarm of 7 Crusaders with 'Fast' and a few points left over for upgrades would be a challenge for 3 Tigers? The Crusaders will pump out a lot more shot per turn.

If the crusaders go fast the tigers have 5 def dice before they move.
If some crusaders remain stationary the tigers go after them with their massive zero def dice.

I might have a trial run using t34s as proxies and 3 tigers.

You can take 4 x Crusaders and 4x Honeys for 100 pts....against 3 Tigers with 13 pts of upgrades. 24 British hit points versus 21 German. All the Brits are fast. Zip in close and shoot at close range, also hopefully taking cover away from the Tiger. The Honeys can even use each other for cover, although why help the Tiger? Use cover and the Honeys get armor 1 from recon though. The Germans are not likely to have the initiative either. Crits can cripple them. Luck, as always, will be a factor.

I think a list of 4 Honeys and 3 Grants might even be better, since you get 10 pts for upgrades. Close in with the Honeys and the Grants snipe. You will probably use your 10 pts to buff the Grants' initiative numbers. The Brits would have 24 hit points again, to 21 for the Germans.

I think the key to making games interesting is the use of 2 objectives in the middle 1/3 of the table. Placed well, it is much harder for a small elite team of tanks to hold off fast moving swarms. Using terrain to cover approaches till the swarm can hit all at once at close range is ideal. I am interested to see what scenarios come up for the Desert Tanks games.

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Do the Panzer III and IV have two turrets so that we can have both a short and long turret and interchange them like the T34s, or are they like the IS2/85 where it's one or the other?

That's what I was thinking too, I was hoping to be pleasantly surprised.

I got the El Alamein box for the models for TANKS, and this is correct. Only one turret. I'm going to try pin-vising a small hole in the trunnion or turret and putting a small metal rod in each mantlet (maybe a safety pin piece or part of a paper clip) and possibly a small magnet on the inside of the turret....

I'm going to find a way to make my Panzers interchangeable as I did with the ISU-152/ISU-122 and the IS-2/IS-85

True enough. I like the challenge, and if I can get 2 cards out of one unit, I end up saving some cash too as I don't need as many models.

I am assembling my Desert Rats as we speak so the Panzers are next....

Looks like you only get 1 generic crusader card , though different turrets still help keep track of individual tanks of the same type. I put the 95mm short gun in one of my cromwells for that reason so it's a CS version. I also have an 'off the books' Churchill with two different turrets for a bit of visual variation though I only knocked up 1 stat card (Slow - 4 4 2 7 for 23 pts )

I'm thinking playing desert games on a 3ft square table could get pretty overcrowded at 100 pts so pondering whether 60 pts would be better , stops folk fielding 3 tigers and cleaning up too. 55 pts maybe better still then there's only ever one monster. I never had a FOW desert company but I recall reading of several gaming clubs that barred desert tiger forces in competitions.

IIRC one of the 'doctrine' cards mentioned in the desert demo video mentions bonuses for the desert Tiger for the number of Pz3's with it.

Went back to the video. 2 doctrine cards for the Germans. First is 'Kampfgrupe Luger' gives the Tiger +1 init for each Pz3 in the squadron. Second is 'Tiger escort' and allows a Pz3 to forego its attack to give a Tiger within 1 range the ability to reroll 2 attack dice.

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