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Mineralwasser  
#1 Posted : Wednesday, September 21, 2016 6:29:56 AM(UTC)
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Hi Tankers,

I had a rules discussion this week about the effect of the critical card:
Damaged Optcis (Tank has -2 Attack. Discard after this tank shoots, Repairable)

Following situation happend.

A enemy tank with higher initiative shoot (Ini 7 for example) in round 2.
I shoot back at initiative 5 and caused a unsaved critical hit
and the card Damaged Optics was drawn for my enemy.

He discarded the card at the end of round 2 and said that he allready shoot
and the effect was gone.

Now my question. The card and effect is repairable.
>Does damagedoptics are still in effect at round 3 shooting, when its not reapaired at the
end of round 2?
> Or can my enemy just discard the effect, because he shoot allreay in round 2 (not -2 attacks
for him, because of higher initiative?).

Thanks for the help.

Best regards,
Mineralwasser
Kaltes - klares - Wasser.
Neil  
#2 Posted : Wednesday, September 21, 2016 6:58:06 AM(UTC)
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Hi,

I see it that the cards effect isn't in play until it's dealt, so if it's dealt After the target has fired that turn then it will remain in play until the next shooting phase or until it's repaired at the end of the turn in which it was dealt.

The fact that it can be repaired tells me that the designers gave you the option to repair before the next turn or carry it over and face the penalty whilst shooting.

That's my view on it.

Cheers
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LordOfKhemri  
#3 Posted : Wednesday, September 21, 2016 8:13:04 AM(UTC)
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I agree 100% with Neil.
The card isn't in play until it is drawn, your opponent has already shot so it carries on until the next turn unless he repairs it in the turn 2 Command Phase.

Your opponent is being a, well, I can't describe him without being barred from the forum :)
Rules lawyering at its worst.
2 Dec 16, me to BF CustServ
Is there any news on my replacement replacement cards for the Achilles please?
6 May 18 no
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Neil on 9/21/2016(UTC)
Marengo  
#4 Posted : Wednesday, September 21, 2016 8:29:20 AM(UTC)
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Agreed, lets just say it was "jolly unsporting" of him.
LordOfKhemri  
#5 Posted : Wednesday, September 21, 2016 8:42:34 AM(UTC)
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LOL
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Is there any news on my replacement replacement cards for the Achilles please?
6 May 18 no
Sean at TANKS HQ  
#6 Posted : Wednesday, September 21, 2016 9:16:41 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Neil Go to Quoted Post
it will remain in play until the next shooting phase or until it's repaired at the end of the turn in which it was dealt.


Neil has the right of it.
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hithero  
#7 Posted : Wednesday, September 21, 2016 8:55:16 PM(UTC)
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Card says discard NEXT time the tank shoots, how could he think otherwise!
Mineralwasser  
#8 Posted : Wednesday, September 21, 2016 9:20:43 PM(UTC)
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Hey guys,

thanks for the arguments and to clear this question.

Now I know, how to handle this the next time the card shows up.


Regards,
Mineralwasser
Kaltes - klares - Wasser.
hithero  
#9 Posted : Wednesday, September 21, 2016 9:30:04 PM(UTC)
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Unless you end up with the damaged optics of course, and then change to correct rule the time after, only fair after all :)
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